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Grieving Doctors of Gaza | Dr. Omar Suleiman

February 7, 2024Dr. Omar Suleiman

An emotional conversation with Dr. Khaled Saleh and Dr. Mosab Nasser delving into their experiences in their homeland, the loss of their family members, and the challenges of conducting surgeries in dire circumstances. As they await a ceasefire for their next mission, these dedicated physicians are mindful of patient conditions and supplies and explain ways the global medical community can contribute to supporting these crucial efforts.

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Yaqeen Institute, Alhamdulillah, we have been, for the last few months, delving into a ton of perspective, covering really every element of this genocide. We've been talking about it from a spiritual perspective, we've been talking about it from a political perspective. And, you know, where Islamic perspective is and where Islamic practice is. And we've all been witnessing the human catastrophe. SubhanAllah, the amount of relatives that have been lost. You know, personally, a few people from my extended family. I met Sheikh Qattanani, may Allah make it easy for him, from New Jersey. He's lost over 40 members of his family and county. And he can barely share a few sentences without breaking down. May Allah make it easy for him. And running around here, at the mass convention, you know, we were looking at a beautiful young girl, Dinan, may Allah have mercy on her, I'm afraid that I've memorized the part, at 13 years old, which is harder. There's a lot of stories, there are a lot of people that are stopping each other at the mass convention. Talking about their personal loss. We've been kind of grounding ourselves back in the deen of Allah. And what we should be doing. That's how I came across these two brothers, you know, during the convention. And was very moved, loathed by the pain, as well as what they're trying to do. To my immediate left is Dr. Musab Nasir, who is from Gaza. And Dr. Khaled Saneh. Dr. Musab and Dr. Khaled are working on missions, medical missions in Gaza. Dr. Musab is one of the most notable orthopedic surgeons in the world. He's been to Gaza multiple times, correct? Yes. Once. The last mission. MashaAllah.
So Dr. Musab and Dr. Khaled have been leading missions. Dr. Khaled is one of the most noted orthopedic surgeons in the world. Has been to Gaza once, has done multiple surgeries there, complicated surgeries there. And both of you have been looking for an opportunity to go back. MashaAllah. Trying to galvanize as much as possible. But dear brothers and sisters, Dr. Musab, who is from Gaza. How many family members have you lost? About 72. 72. 72 members of his family. 72 members of his family. 72 members of his family. So as a panel, when you think about, you know, just the numbers. That's a staggering amount of people. Absolutely. Can you kind of tell us a little bit about what that means? First of all, we lost parents out. Because of all the shahadah, it lost parents out. It allowed them to be waiting for you at the gate. It allowed them to intercede for the rest of your family. And all of you. So we're very sorry for the pain that you feel. If you can tell us a little bit about those 72 members of your family. Just sort of eye level. Yes, panel. I was at the masjid in Houston two or three days ago. When I got the news from Gaza. That four members of my relatives have found I'm being martyred. And as a panel, we Palestinians are kind of programmed to receive these numbers. So four, I thought, you know, tolerable compared to the numbers that we see and hear every day. And then as the time progressed, when I woke up in the morning the second day, I saw that one of my relatives has posted online that 72 members of our family, the Nasser family, have been martyred. A refugee camp in Gaza. That was really shocking.
Those are, you know, family members or relatives that I have, you know, I ate with. Laughed with. Drank coffee with. And it's very difficult to comprehend the scale of the tragedy. You know, subhanAllah, these are lives. These are people that you have met. You have talked to. They had hopes, aspirations. And in fact, many of them were children. So ask Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to have mercy on them. Ask Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to accept them as shahada in Jannah. And give patience to those who are left behind. I mean, a big deal without our personal loan. How are you? Is anyone left from your family in Gaza? Or are they all? No, alhamdulillah. My immediate family members, brothers, sisters, are still alive. But they all have basically left. They're from the north of Gaza, from Beit Han. So the Nasser family, I would say, is probably 500 plus. MashaAllah, this is a typical Palestinian family. So when we say family, you know, it means, you know, cousins, brothers, sisters, relatives, their children, grandchildren, and so on, right? So we have the Nasser family maybe consists of 100 families. All of them were scattered around, you know, Gaza. And I was born and raised in Beit Han, the north of Gaza, which has been really decimated. It's been flattened by my immediate family members, brothers, sisters, their wives, children, and even grandchildren. Most of them are in the south right now in Rafai. Two of my sisters actually with their families are taking shelter at the UN schools. And your sisters? My own sisters, yeah. So my immediate, immediate family members, siblings, we're talking about maybe 200 plus. All of them have been displaced.
Their homes have been destroyed, have been burned, effectively. And they are staying in UN shelters at the worst in humane conditions. One thing, MashaAllah. When you talk to them, have you noted a shift? You know, when I talk to people on those, I note again that the last two weeks, there's almost a shift in the tone. There's a lot more desperation, I think, now, with the starvation, with the shelling on all sides, in all of our safe areas. I mean, not that there ever really was. It seems like there's a ground incursion that's being prepared off our side as well. What are you hearing from your family? Are you hearing a change in tone? I don't know. We Palestinians are very resilient. We like the challenges despite the pain. We're kind of programs parallel to receive these kinds of news and deal with the atrocities that we have been living and experiencing for the past 75 years. The blockade itself on Gaza has been for the past, what, 17 plus years? So I don't see a shift in being hopeful. I think we feel helpless. They feel helpless, but they are not hopeless. I think they feel that... There's a big difference between those two things. Absolutely. Hopeless and hopeless. Absolutely. And I can tell you, being from Beit Hanon, where my family members, all their homes have been destroyed, they insist on coming back as soon as there is a ceasefire. No one contemplating of staying in Rafah or in Khan Yunis even a single day after the ceasefire. They want to go back to the north, and they will put a tent on the top of the rubble of their homes, and they will stay there. This is a residual.
SubhanAllah, that's really been something that even when I hear... I mean, I've been to multiple refugee camps. I've been to different places. The way that people have just had tons of bombs that have been dropped on them, and I've been through this, and I've lost their homes and lost their family, are still saying, I don't know, we're coming back. So as soon as this is over, we're coming back. Benjamin Netanyahu said he wanted to thin out the population. He's being very open about the full cleansing project that he has in mind. But there was an element of psychological warfare here, very clearly that we're not supposed to come back, that at some point you break them down to where they don't want to come back. And even the few relatives I've spoken to that are asking to get safe passage to Egypt, and the media bombarded, I mean, in their minds, like he says, go back, rebuild, even if we have to rebuild from scratch, even if there's nothing on the ground, even if we're walking through craters, and for the trauma of the dead bodies of our relatives, we're still going to rebuild. There are people who have lost... I was clearly chosen for this. The Prophet salallahu alayhi wa sallam loved these people. He talked about these people in such an unblowing way. It's a category in Islam that often gets left out. We don't really talk about them too much, but someone's holding the fort, refusing to let this evil project, colonial project of Zionism take full root. I'm not let. Are you proud of your relatives? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. All of them. No exception. Unbelievable. I mean, their spirit is unbeatable,
which is really the Palestinian spirit forever. And subhanAllah, just watching and seeing their story, their resilience, makes you proud of who you are. And we ask Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to give them patience, to give them strength, and ease their stress. Yes, subhanAllah, the last wasiya of Abu Dhabqa was listening to his son. Here's the camera man for a while at the end. I was listening to his son talking about the last conversation, and he said that his dad told him, please make sure you pray first. That's before he woke up in the daytime. These guys are barely surviving. You know, he was a pretty happy guy, like many of the Palestinians. So, yes, still fighting with a smile and laugh. And obviously, it was unfortunate he shot, and left to lead off to death. He didn't accept him as a shaheed. He was listening to his son say that, just like a roll off the tip of his tongue. The last thing he said to me was, keep up with your prayers, keep up with your salah. Make sure you pray your prayers on time. Keep that up. How do we make sense of this phenomenon? Like, they're telling us how to be better Muslims. How do we make sense of that? How do you explain that to a non-Muslim who doesn't get it? What makes them that way? You grew up in the West. I grew up in the West. What's in the water? What's in the sauce? What is the secret sauce of Islam? SubhanAllah, once you live the experience, it becomes natural. So for us, experiencing what we're experiencing on a daily basis becomes the norm. So people learn how to adapt
as things get more difficult. And so for an outsider, it looks like unbearable. For them, it's still unbearable, but they manage to adapt, right? But this is something that's really unique about the Palestinians, which, in fact, if you compare it to the other side, to the Israeli side, they don't have that resilience. We, for the past 70 years, have seen atrocities, massacres, blood, destruction. So it became part of our DNA. You know, there is some sort of a genetic component of the Palestinian gene that says, I have to be persistent. I have to be resistant to the fact that I'm living in this horrible condition. You know, people refer to Gaza, to Torezza, most of the time, as the open-air prison. And I really don't like that term for a simple fact that people go to prison because they've done something wrong. Palestinians haven't done anything wrong. And I like to refer to it as a concentration camp. People are being suffocated in this small area, being slaughtered on a daily basis for many years. You know, the war that happened after October 7 is one thing, but the blockade of more than 17 years in Gaza is also in the domain and should have ended a long time ago and should not have been endorsed by any country in the world. Yes, our own. No more, Mr. Taheri. Dr. Clavin, we'll come to you, inshallah. So you are originally Palestinian as well? Yes, sir. Your family displaced in 1948? Correct, behind the back wall. There's a table called 7. So it's parallel there. This is the Palestinian experience.
Everyone's got a story of either being moved out, blockaded, or stuck somewhere. I mean, everyone's got that story. It's a common one. So your family was uprooted. You were born and raised outside of Palestine. What made you connect to your Palestinian identity, to the Palestinian cause, and then eventually, obviously, to the mission that you have now? This is a very powerful question. I think every Palestinian has a different answer, but there's a lot that overlaps in that diagram. For me, it was a family that has, you know, recalls the way of life it was in Palestine. It wasn't a land that had no people. It was a land that had people with amazing hearts. Amen and faith were prevailed. It was safe to leave whatever goods you had outside because everybody carried that faith in their hearts. It was the most productive, as you know, countries in the world in terms of agriculture and many exports. And they recall this life that's amazing, where they had cars, trail, and building airports. But sadly, this was taken away from them at the point of a gun extricated from their homes. And they thought they would be able to return, so they spent years in multiple areas hoping that door will open again for their house. Taxidermy members of our family took the key hoping that they will be able to come back and open the door. Obviously, that didn't happen. In the 70s, I was part of Yaffa. Yaffa is now a big growing area, but they never forgot that lifestyle, and they clung on to it and was passed on to the next generation. So my grandparents, who raised partially part of my in the world, with my parents, uncles, and aunts, who have created a life for me where I haven't... I got to learn about how they lived and how happy they were. And quite frankly, even though we had, I think at some point,
they had 50 people living in one bedroom, they still recalled that life, and they were able to manage through the difficulties of struggling to get back on their feet. And the realization came that this is untenable. We have to move to another country to carry on our next generations, that that key may not come right away before we can open up the door, but inshallah, and we'll come back. If I can, Dr. Arwan, if I can add to that, answer to Dr. Musa, I'm added. Although that was my first visit, this is my second visit to Gaza, I was amazed by the amount of people. As a physician, we've seen over 100,000 patients. Watching a patient undergo surgery under complete anesthesia and reading the Quran at the same time was unbelievable. I mean, I say it and my throat cracks up. We have a very strong, highly skilled, multi-specialty surgical team, and 40% of it is non-Muslim. It's multi-denominational, which is amazing because they believe in this important cause and they joined us. And there was a doctor from Portugal who came to us at the end of the mission, probably was four feet tall, but she was an orthopedic surgeon and a reckoned force that you can be with, and she said, Dr. Salah, I know you were busy. I didn't get a chance to talk to you during these past 5 to 10 days, 9 days, I think we were there. She said, and Dr. Musa was there. She said, you know, I want to tell you I've been around the world, but I'm maybe with a white heart. I've never been moved so much with people like this, and I want to come back and you can count on me. And she actually recruited her partners, so it's amazing. So there's a notable difference in knowing you're operating on the people there. Unbelievable. How many people do you think you've operated on in your life? I would say probably operated, including my training, probably around 20,000 surgeries. I've seen over 100,000 patients.
And the people and the staff are different. Unbelievable. I'm so grateful. We thought we were going there, Dr. Olmert, we were doing them a favor, bringing these expertise, world-renowned surgeons and nurses and doctors, and my wife said it best, they're doing the favor to us. We left completely different, despite having had the ability to do... Masha'Allah, I'm blessed with Allah to have traveled the world and done mission work all over the world. Gaza was unique. It really changed us. And I speak with you with my hair standing up. As a seasoned physician with a lot of gray hair, everybody in my team came back with a completely different vision about the future and why this is essential for changing the world. It is effective. The Iman, the faith, the Qur'an. In fact, the night Dr. Musab invited me to his house, as we did marriage, one of the senior members of the masjid came to us and he said, come on, guys, get going. We'd love to have you here. Join us. I said, what's going on? He said, we have seven boys that just finished memorizing the Qur'an in this last month. In this last month. And the amazing thing was that the scholars, people don't know how many scholars were in Gaza that we came to realize that were so deep in their knowledge, their perspectives on this, that sadly may not be there today. We lost a lot of physicians that were our colleagues that became our friends, that are families that we trained that are no longer there. Some of them died as they preached the law. Yeah, I noticed. What's the situation? What's your daily life right now? So when we started planning the mission
and the success of it was that really having knowledge on the ground, thanks to Dr. Musab being from there, but the organization is impressively well founded. The Ministry of Health has done a good job with human things. However, it was at the brink of failure at that point in August when we were there, just exactly eight weeks before the war broke out. We had to take everything. Every day we'd get, we have regular meetings before that, Dr. Omar would come with the ministry and it's like, well, either way you need to bring this. We can't, we don't have, we can't afford this. We can't do this. So it was constantly being updated because they try to keep up with the surgeries. We're trying to make sure it's certainly complicated, but they basically, the reason they didn't have that expertise is because they can afford these surgeries. So a joint replacement for us, which is a standard procedure that we have in Canada, States, wherever in the world, it's a given to restore life and function because that integrity and dignity of a person not being dependent on somebody is so important. But when you give them a joint replacement, they're able to take care of themselves and take care of their grandkids, it changes their life. Well, they couldn't have that expertise developed to the level that they needed to. But as a result of that, they had waiting lists of at least 10 years, a lot more people are in wheelchairs. So that was already at the precipice of failure. But to have this war come in. And basically annihilate the infrastructure, which is really significant. And the fact that hospitals now are functioning at 20% capacity, what they had, because the buildings have been decimated. The need is even more great. Combined that with lack of water, lack of food, lack of shelter and safety. And now you created basically a very difficult situation where life is untenable. And this is what we fear.
And we are in contact with them, with our colleagues, we're in contact with the people on the ground, we're part of the World Health Organization panel for mating and updating us. And they're at loss too, because they have no way of securing the safety of the physicians, our team, securing the supplies if we sent them to get there, nor the ability to be able to conduct the surgeries because they're telling us there's 20% operators. And you do the surgeries when most of them are like... I hate to even ask the question, but I'll ask the question anyway, because I think it's a boring process to fully understand being stunned. I mean, when you see a child having her operation without anesthesia, you're like, when just... I don't even know what you call them, means. Can you explain that to someone, determining the pain that a child would feel, the pain that a person would feel without anesthesia, having those types of symptoms? One word comes to mind, it's inexplicable. It is inexplicable. No one should go through that suffering, nor the agony of having that. We continue to get pictures from WESO, because of their connections with the physicians, where not only is it unsafe, obviously the pain is dramatic, and beyond human capability to survive these kind of excruciating surgeries, we do it as well in malaria, where they're on the floor, where we know the bacterial count is extremely high, and because of that, the complication rates, even though it's done well, but because of the surgeries with no antibiotics, no anesthesia, no proper care for the wounds.
I have videos of physicians walking through the hospital trying to find sutures to close wounds that had been infected, they can't find, they're out of supplies. And we know that as we look for our next mission, it's going to be a completely different mission. These people are going to have significant complications we have to deal with when you're doing surgery in a hospital where the floor has been exposed to all kinds of bacteria. In fact, the records and the research that's out there right now in Ukraine, the resistant rates where bacteria are learning how to fight our antibiotics has gone up by 300% in Warsaw, the Alps. Furthermore, you have 24,000 bombs that are being dropped with toxic, toxic chemicals, from cadmium to arsenic to lead, which we easily have been proven to be cancer-forming disease, significant autoimmune disease formation, and all kinds of very complicated pathologic diseases that require significant resources are been well-documented in each of these barns containing cysts. And as they blow up, these things go in the soil. How are they going to grow, these slugs? How are they going to grow their vegetables, their food? This is going to be there for years. And this is a conversation in the medical world that we're dealing with is, you can't just go for two weeks. This needs significant time and investment to address this. It's a very challenging lecture. What's sort of your call right now to Muslim doctors or doctors of conscience, world health organizations? Like, what's the activism side of this? What is it that you all are trying to do? What can we do at that front, the advocacy front? Sort of call to actions at that moment. World health organizations, doctors, medical unions. What should we be doing? Thank you for this question. This is a very important question.
I'd like to answer part of it and then turn it out with just the core aspects and Dr. Muslim, if I can. On the medical side, clearly, we need expertise in every domain. Although we were initially testing the waters with orthopedics, now we have gone to every orthopedic, every surgical, apologies, every surgical specialty needs to be prepared in any way they can to come and help. For example, thoracic surgeons, abdominal surgeons, vascular surgeons, plastic surgeons, neurosurgeons, orthopedic surgeons are probably the dominant 80% of these injuries. Right now we know that there's 55,000 casualties that are critically injured, which means that more than likely doesn't mean just 55,000 operations like trauma. More than likely require at least two operations to possibly up to 10. So now you're looking at hundreds of thousands of surgeries that need to be done. And the presence can't be just come in and do two weeks. It has to be the presence of mindset is that if I join and contribute to this really impactful, impactful need right now and my expertise, it needs to be long-term, number one. Number two, the connection the physicians have with medical supplies is critical. No one has the access to resources to purchase these supplies, whether it's surgical implants, for example, that will be needed for these surgeries are amazingly expensive and contain alloys that we need to do to reconstruct this. Third, we need to teach the physicians that are there to continue to expand their expertise, and we've shown that this works. We actually taught surgeons to do surgeries they haven't done before within a few days. So those three aspects are really critical from the medical side. Obviously, it's a big lift, and this is where I turn to my brother, Dr. Mussop, to help in this because this is beyond where we're going to go. We know what we got to do. We have the processes.
We have the methodologies. It needs to have multiple organizations tie hands together, say, we're this. We're going to get this done. Yeah, absolutely. What Dr. O'Fallon said, this is beyond the single organization. And what we've been doing lately since the beginning of the war is really to try to rally our community together to help us achieve our goal. In fact, we're promising, as an organization, 5,000 surgeries initially to treat 5,000 basically patients. And as Dr. Saleh said, we shouldn't refer to it as surgeries because each patient could potentially require three, four, even five surgeons potentially. So when we talk about 55,000 cases, that means 200,000 surgeries, right? This is beyond us as an organization. This is, we see this as a collective effort, not just the community in the U.S., but really around the world. How can we make this happen? So access is another question. We've been trying very hard to send medical supplies to Gaza. I know there have been other supplies that went in, but medical supplies, I can tell you, it's really the very minimum. And the reason is because effectively we're sending metal to Gaza, right? Screws, implants, plates, instruments, tests that require approval from all the stakeholders involved, the Egyptians, the Jordanians, the Israelis, and the Palestinians. So it's not easy. It's different than sending, let's say, food or blankets or tents, those you can purchase locally and bring them in. For us, we have to procure those, we have to raise the funds for them, and we have to make sure that they are approved from the other side. We have, alhamdulillah, we've raised the money to send up to 10 40-foot containers to Gaza.
Two of them actually ready to ship, but we've been fighting effectively kind how to bring those supplies to Gaza. And so I call upon anyone who has the right connections, can help us bring these medical. They're ready. They're actually ready, packed in pallets. We have 59 pallets ready to ship to Gaza with the most urgently needed medical supplies to Gaza. That's one. Number two is access. We have more than, I would say, 150 surgeons in our team ready to be deployed to Gaza at any time. Top talent, top expertise. We need to find a way to bring them in as soon as we have a ceasefire. We didn't want to send many right now because it's touristy, too dangerous. Communications we have with people on the ground, it's a very difficult environment for surgeons, let's say, from the U.S. or Europe to come to Gaza at this point. So we want to go in. We want to help. We have the expertise. And, again, think about the cost of 200,000 surgeries. And I really hope this is an appeal that we should not forget Gaza after the war. When we have a ceasefire, let's not abandon Gaza. Let's continue to help them, inshallah. Insha'Allah. So I want to remind you all, inshallah. So inshallah, Dr. Musab and Dr. Khader with the organization called Federal Scientific, inshallah. Please do support them. And the many wonderful organizations, as I said, the Salwa organizations that we need. We need the aid organizations that are giving food and drink in there. We need the medical organizations. We need the press organizations. We need the ummat. We need everybody all hands on deck. And part of what determines your sincerity to the cause is that you don't abandon it when everybody else abandons it. So like Dr. Musab said, when it comes to Gaza, inshallah ta'ala, we hope that there will be a ceasefire soon and that we build Shafr wall soon, inshallah ta'ala. We cannot move on when the bombs stop dropping, inshallah ta'ala.
We have to keep focused, keep together for Gaza and for Palestine. Because this is obviously about more than Gaza. This is about Palestine. This is a government regime that is seeking the final end of Palestine, inshallah ta'ala. This is the beginning of its full liberation. So we need everyone involved, inshallah ta'ala. I'm going to just ask you and just, you know, quickly as we conclude, inshallah, I couldn't help but notice Musab al-Rumeid, Khaled al-Rumeid, you know, so you're named after some of the heroes, it's Khaled. And, you know, Zab al-Okheir on First and Falls, from me to you and from everyone, they are a word you owe me lots of cards out of comfort. Do you and your family, all the families that have lost people in Gaza and protect those that are still there from further on. Just your quick message to the ummah. What do you tell people now about Gaza? What do you say to people now? I mean, look, we feel, I mean, helpless at times. What do you say? I say, The people of Gaza are good, despite all the pain, the suffering. Everything you see on TV, honestly, Gaza is good. In fact, Gaza is teaching the world how to be patient, what Iman means. Gaza really means the trust and the hope and the faith that we need it as a Ummah. Gaza is really the glue that brings us, the people of conscience together. It's the water, it's the gravity, it's the force that brings the ummah together. And this is, but let's say at the same time, despite all this pain, it's an amanah that Allah Subh'anaHu Wa Ta-A'la will ask all of us about it.
Allah Subh'anaHu Wa Ta-A'la will ask us about the people of Gaza. What have we done for the people of Gaza, especially those who live a comfortable life like us here in America and in the West world? What have you done for us? I know when you hear this, oftentimes you think about money, donations, but our philosophy in this organization, in Federal Scientific, is really the best asset that we have in the Western world is really our minds, our expertise. And we're calling for your help as experts in whatever field you can help Gaza with today before you're sending money. And Gaza needs the expertise. I can tell you, you can give us millions and millions of dollars, but if I don't have the right surgeon to do the surgery in Gaza, that million dollars, a hundred million dollars, means absolutely nothing. So I call upon those with expertise to come and volunteer with us, whether it's in the medical or otherwise, to rebuild us, and Allah Subh'anaHu Wa Ta-A'la will ask this of us. In a short promise, I love speaking to my colleagues, when it comes to the history of our amazing Ummah. Palestine is the pulse of the Ummah. It is a vital sign of where we are. Think back to Salah al-Din, where circumstances showed at that point there was fragmentation amongst us. The Ummah was weaker, and being weaker led to significant issues, including the losing of Quds. It took the unification of the Ummah, which I believe strongly in my heart, that there is a purpose behind this, that we don't know, Allah Subh'anaHu Wa Ta-A'la, what He has intended through this, but I see so much good coming out of the Ummah. I see people converting to Islam. I see people realizing the difficulties and challenges that are moved by these amazing people as a reflection of the Palestinian heart, the Muslim mind,
the hand that reaches out to help another, is amazing. And I do believe that there's ricochet effects from this that we cannot appreciate today, but only Allah knows. But I know that the support and the unification of the Ummah is much stronger today than it was before on October 6th. So, there's a lot I don't know, but I believe there's a lot of good that's coming out of this. We just don't know, because everything comes good from Allah. You know, it's interesting, because growing up, I used to wonder why my father was so lent on education. Right. All of us are fathers. We know this. I remember the talks. The English chemistry professor used to drive me crazy. Why do we have to get all educated? Why do we have to do this stuff? And I was like, no, we've got to take it back, help our people back home. Obviously, that's translated to both of you. The rest of us, as long as you think about even the young people, your education, use it to help your Ummah, so that you can get back to your Ummah. Jazakumullahu Khayran. Thank you, Father. Thank you for all your work. Jazakumullahu Khayran. That's everyone for tuning in. Salaam alaikum. Salaam alaikum. Salaam alaikum.
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